Heräsin jokin aika sitten.
Keitin vielä yhden satsin sosekeittoa. Nyt on taas kaikki vanhempien tuomat pakastetut kesäkurpitsat käytetty keittoihin.
Kävin tossa ennen iltakuutta ostamassa vaikka mitä ruokaa.
Argh! Yleensä ihan hyvä jätkä nimeltä Jamie Zawinski kirjoitti tyhmän kirjoituksen Linuxin videokatseluohjelmista ja nyt sitä flametetaan Slashdotin threadissa. Kirjoitinpa äijälle meiliä:
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:30:59 +0200 From: Juhapekka Tolvanen <juhtolv(at)iki(dot)fi> To: jwz@jwz.org Subject: About your review about video players on Linux Lines: 115 "I finally found RPMs of mplayer that would consent to install themselves on a Red Hat 7.2 machine, --- --- Their propose ``solution'' for distributing binaries on Red Hat systems? They point you at an RPM that installs apt, the Debian package system! Yeah, that's a good idea, I want to struggle with two competing packaging systems on my machine just to install a single app" It is obvious, that you don't know about tools, that can help you to find find and install packages, that some package you are going to install, depends on. "apt" IS NOT packaging system of Debian. It is tool, that was originally meant for dpkg-packages. "dpkg" is packaging system of Debian, not "apt". Some years ago some people extended apt so, that it can handle RPMs. With apt, you can say "apt-get install <some package>" and then it downloads and installs BOTH that package you want AND those packages it depends on (if they are not installed already, of course). It makes life so easy, that it is not a miracle, it was made to handle RPMs, too. On the other hand, under RPM-based distros you really have to struggle to find packages and their dependencies. Hence, it is not a miracle, that people suggest you to switch to Debian. It has the biggest package collection of all Linux-distros. And packages that those packages depend on are included, too. You don't need to hunt them down all over the Internet; just run "apt". "Well, I found some RPMs for Red Hat 7.2, but apparently they expect you to have already rectally inserted Gnome2 on that 7.2 system first. Uh, no. I've seen the horror of Red Hat 8.0, and there's no fucking way I'm putting Gnome2 on any more of my machines for at least another six months, maybe a year." If some program depends on _libraries_ of Gnome2 it does not mean that you have to run that program under Gnome2-_desktop_. I have run Konqueror under my Gnome 1.4.0. I think it would be possible to Gnome2-programs under this Gnome-desktop or under KDE or under plain window manager. On the other hand, when you run Gnome2 under Red Hat 8.0, you are really not running just Gnome2; I guess you are running Gnome2 SPOILED by Red Hat. Then you tried Xine. You are right about Xine: its GUI really sucks. But guess what: Xine is not just a video player. It is a bunch of libraries. Because of those libraries it is possible to create other video players, that has better GUI than Xine itself and can open every video format that Xine can. There already exist many Xine-based video players. My favourite is gnome-xine. As the name suggests, it is has Gnome-GUI, but it is not Gnome2-GUI. And it has no stupid skins or themes. You shouldn't even bother compiling the GUI into mplayer! So I should solve the problem of ``crappy GUI'' by replacing it with ``no GUI at all?'' I should use the program only from the command line, or by memorizing magic keystrokes? Awesome idea. Why not? It is really fast to do this: With some help from Tab-key go to right directory with cd-command and then write "mplayer <filename>". It is so simple. And it sounds ridiculous that Jamie Zawinski, the big contributor of Esc-Meta-Alt-Ctrl-Shift refuses to learn keyboard shortcuts of mplayer. In fact those shortcuts are much easier than keyboard shortcuts of emacs! But you are so ignorant, that you did not bother to check out, how easy they really are: juhtolv@heresy:/home/juhtolv % mplayer --help (Major Clip) Basic keys: (see the man page for the complete list, also check input.conf) <- or -> seek backward/forward 10 seconds up or down seek backward/forward 1 minute pgup or pgdown seek backward/forward 10 minutes < or > step backward/forward in playlist p or SPACE pause movie (press any key to continue) q or ESC stop playing and quit program + or - adjust audio delay by +/- 0.1 second o cycle OSD mode: none / seekbar / seekbar+timer * or / increase or decrease pcm volume z or x adjust subtitle delay by +/- 0.1 second r or t adjust subtitle position up/down, also see -vop expand * * * SEE MAN PAGE FOR DETAILS, FURTHER (ADVANCED) OPTIONS AND KEYS! * * * * I always run mplayer without GUI. I just checked out that GUI, and it really sucks. And all those error messages goes to some dialog box, that hides that video window itself. Most of those errors are so harmless, that they really belong to stderr. An idiocy that all of these programs have in common is that, in addition to opening a window for the movie, and a window for the control panel, they also spray a constant spatter of curses crud on the terminal they were started from. I imagine at some point, there was some user who said, ``this program is pretty nice, but you know what it's missing? It's missing a lot of pointless chatter about what plugins and fonts have been loaded!'' That is only partly true. It would be nice to have some quiet mode, of course. But when something goes wrong, it is really nice to have good debugging and diagnosing information. Therefore those video players are so verbose. Anyway, here is good Linux video-player round-up. Just check it out: http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=27 -- Juhapekka "naula" Tolvanen * * * http://iki.fi/juhtolv/index.html "Lämmitä ei laatikot, ei rusinatkaan luumukiisselin. Riisipuuron jäätyneen nyt verannalta sisään kiikutin. Ja kurkkuun jäänyt mantelikin viimein irtoaa vaik' parempi kun pysytellyt ois vaan paikallaan." Viikate